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		<title>The Federal Government Could Save Some Money</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 17:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>&#8230; by not doing this. Maybe some of those states&#8217; rights advocates could apply some states&#8217; rights to the issue. </p> <div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/12/controlling-the-money-means-controlling-the-speech/"     class="crp_title">Controlling the Money Means Controlling the Speech</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/01/when-campaign-finance-reform-has-the-reverse-effect/"     class="crp_title">When Campaign Finance Reform Has the Reverse Effect</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/07/think-about-how/"     class="crp_title">Think about How</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/02/this-does-not-represent-family-values/"     class="crp_title">This Does NOT Represent Family Values</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/09/jerry-coyne-on-criticizing-religion/"     class="crp_title">Jerry Coyne on Criticizing Religion</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8230; by not doing <a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2013/05/09/dea-ramping-up-marijuana-enforcement-again/">this</a>. Maybe some of those states&#8217; rights advocates could apply some states&#8217; rights to the issue.
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		<title>Renewing (Mainline) Congregations – Again</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>I want to call attention to a post I read this morning, Can a Dying Church Find Life? Six Radical Steps to &#8220;Yes&#8221; (HT: Allan Bevere).</p> <p>Then I want to call attention again to a series of responses to a set of interview questions given by some Energion Publications authors on renewing mainline congregations. [...]<div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2013/03/energion-political-debate/"     class="crp_title">Energion Political Debate</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2013/03/theologian-pastors/"     class="crp_title">Theologian Pastors</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2013/04/is-the-umc-dying/"     class="crp_title">Is the UMC Dying?</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/11/curing-the-united-methodist-church/"     class="crp_title">Curing the United Methodist Church</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/07/shifting-theology/"     class="crp_title">Shifting Theology</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I want to call attention to a post I read this morning, <a href="http://thomrainer.com/2013/04/27/can-a-dying-church-find-life-six-radical-steps-to-yes/">Can a Dying Church Find Life? Six Radical Steps to &#8220;Yes&#8221;</a> (HT: <a href="http://www.allanbevere.com/2013/04/six-radical-steps-to-resuscitate-dying.html">Allan Bevere</a>).</p>
	<p>Then I want to call attention again to a series of responses to a set of interview questions given by some Energion Publications authors on <a href="http://energion.net/2013/03/transforming-mainline-congregations-wrap-up-and-call-for-comment/">renewing mainline congregations</a>. The two are coming from different directions. The interviews assume a leader who is determined to find renewal, while the article above does not. It indicates that one of the needs is a determined church leader. I don&#8217;t think this leader would have to be the pastor, though I suspect there would be problems if the pastor isn&#8217;t on board.</p>
	<p>In any case, I think these links are worth checking out.
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		<title>Link: The Gospel and Social Justice</title>
		<link>http://henrysthreads.com/2013/04/link-the-gospel-and-social-justice/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>T. E. Hanna (discovered via Facebook) has a guest post by Dana Bruxvoort titled Why the Gospel Without Justice Isn&#8217;t the Gospel. While the title caught my attention, phrases like &#8220;filling in the holes in my gospel&#8221; and &#8220;doing nothing was no longer an option.&#8221;</p> <p>Missions not optional? Let&#8217;s spread that idea far and [...]<div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/11/responding-to-the-new-atheism/"     class="crp_title">Responding to the New Atheism</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/11/the-gospel-in-the-sermon-on-the-mount/"     class="crp_title">The Gospel in the Sermon on the Mount</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/11/on-a-soterian-gospel/"     class="crp_title">On a Soterian Gospel</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/12/brueggeman-on-justice/"     class="crp_title">Brueggeman on Justice</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/08/finding-the-sound-of-the-bloody-cross-gospel/"     class="crp_title">Finding the Sound of the Bloody Cross Gospel</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>T. E. Hanna (discovered via Facebook) has a guest post by <a href="http://danabrux.com/">Dana Bruxvoort</a> titled <a href="http://ofdustandkings.com/the-gospel-without-justice/">Why the Gospel Without Justice Isn&#8217;t the Gospel</a>. While the title caught my attention, phrases like &#8220;filling in the holes in my gospel&#8221; and &#8220;doing nothing was no longer an option.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Missions not optional? Let&#8217;s spread that idea far and wide!</p>
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		<title>Site Problems</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>I had some site problems over the last couple of days, but they are finally fixed. If you have trouble accessing any pages, please let me know.</p> <p>&#160; </p> <div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/08/restoring-commas/"     class="crp_title">Restoring Commas</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/09/how-not-to-convince-me/"     class="crp_title">How Not to Convince Me</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/01/quote-of-the-day-william-barclay/"     class="crp_title">Quote of the Day &#8211; William Barclay</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/01/an-rss-feed-for-dave-black/"     class="crp_title">An RSS Feed for Dave Black</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2013/04/quote-of-the-day-dan-r-dick-on-ecumenically-challenged/"     class="crp_title">Quote of the Day: Dan R. Dick on Ecumenically Challenged</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I had some site problems over the last couple of days, but they are finally fixed. If you have trouble accessing any pages, please let me know.</p>
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		<title>Quote of the Day: Dan R. Dick on Ecumenically Challenged</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>The fact is, we want to be bigger, and we really can’t be bothered with the health and well-being of other denominations — after all, their gain is our loss, right?</p> <p>He tells about how he got in trouble with his trustees &#8230; and fellow pastors. And I love it! Read the whole thing.</p> [...]<div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/10/dan-dick-on-make-no-wave-church/"     class="crp_title">Dan Dick on Make-No-Wave Church</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/10/discipleship-not-about-numbers/"     class="crp_title">Discipleship Not About Numbers</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/06/discovering-what-young-adults-want/"     class="crp_title">Discovering What Young Adults Want</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2013/01/the-umc-and-innovation/"     class="crp_title">The UMC and Innovation</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/09/on-um-insight/"     class="crp_title">On UM Insight</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>The fact is, we want to be bigger, and we really can’t be bothered with the health and well-being of other denominations — after all, their gain is our loss, right?</p></blockquote>
	<p>He tells about how he got in trouble with his trustees &#8230; and fellow pastors. And I love it! <a href="http://um-insight.net/blogs/dan-r-dick/ecumenically-challenged/">Read the whole thing</a>.</p>
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		<title>Speaking of Dying Churches</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>What should a church that grows out of the New Testament witness look like? Dave Black posted a list of items on his blog today, and I, with his blanket permission, extracted the list to the Jesus Paradigm web site. (The site supports Dave&#8217;s book The Jesus Paradigm, which I publish.)</p> <p>I hope you [...]<div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/01/an-rss-feed-for-dave-black/"     class="crp_title">An RSS Feed for Dave Black</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/05/dave-black-has-a-question-on-ministry/"     class="crp_title">Dave Black Has a Question on Ministry</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/11/responding-to-the-new-atheism/"     class="crp_title">Responding to the New Atheism</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/09/coloring-outside-the-lines/"     class="crp_title">Coloring Outside the Lines</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/10/october-22-and-eschatology/"     class="crp_title">October 22 and Eschatology</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1893729467"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-3909" style="margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" alt="9781893729568s" src="http://henrysthreads.com/wp-content/9781893729568s.png" width="100" height="150" /></a>What should a church that grows out of the New Testament witness look like? Dave Black posted a list of items on his blog today, and I, with his blanket permission, <a href="http://jesusparadigm.com/2013/04/what-is-the-church-a-list/">extracted the list to the Jesus Paradigm web site</a>. (The site supports Dave&#8217;s book <a title="The Jesus Paradigm" href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1893729567/">The Jesus Paradigm</a>, which I publish.)</p>
	<p>I hope you will go read, think about, and then discuss the ideas Dave presents. They&#8217;re similar to the ones he presented in his book. I&#8217;d love for you to read the book as well. It&#8217;s available in print as well as for <a href="http://energionpubs.com/books/K893729567/">Kindle</a>, <a href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1893729753/">Nook</a>, <a href="http://energionpubs.com/books/A893729753/">iBooks</a>, and <a href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1893729680/">Adobe Digital Editions.</a> My greatest disappointment as a publisher is not when a book doesn&#8217;t sell or sells poorly, though I want books to sell well, but when a good, challenging book doesn&#8217;t reach as many people as I think it should. <em>The Jesus Paradigm</em> is a book that I think has reached far fewer people than it should.</p>
	<p>Now when I say reached, I don&#8217;t just mean that people have bought the book, or have read it, or even have agreed with it. What I mean is that people have thought about it. Do you disagree with some of Dave&#8217;s points? Fine. Discuss! Much more importantly, <strong>do! </strong>If a few of us in the church would do more and talk less, it would be great. Talking and listening, writing and reading are great and essential. But action based on good listening, reading, and thinking is better.</p>
	<p>My fundamental idea in choosing what I publish for <a href="http://energionpubs.com">Energion Publications</a> is to ask whether it will drive people to think and study, and then hopefully to put something into action. I think the most important element of learning to study the Bible is <strong>actually doing it</strong>. I think the most important aspect of mission and ministry is <strong>doing it</strong>. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m delighted that so many of the Energion authors are active in ministry. One of my authors (my mother) is 94 years old and is still active in the mission of her local church. She gives the children&#8217;s stories and she&#8217;s involved in sewing, knitting and quilt making in service for the poor. Incidentally, she&#8217;d agree with the point Dave makes about having all ages together in the church. What about you?</p>
	<p><a href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1938434641/"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3910" alt="9781938434648s" src="http://henrysthreads.com/wp-content/9781938434648s.png" width="100" height="150" /></a>In addition, this is why I have a diversity of authors. Contrast <a title="Dave Black Online" href="http://daveblackonline.com">Dave Black</a> with <a title="Bruce Epperly" href="http://bruceepperly.com">Bruce Epperly</a>. I publish books by both. They both are or have been seminary professors. One is a Southern Baptist, the other United Church of Christ. But Dave wrote <em>The Jesus Paradigm</em> and Bruce wrote a study guide to <a href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1893729974/">Philippians</a> that actually has the audacity to suggest we should be applying a bunch of what Paul says to what we do in our local congregations. With that start, I&#8217;m hooked on both. Now I&#8217;m editing Bruce&#8217;s forthcoming book <a href="http://energionpubs.com/books/1938434641/">Transforming Acts</a>, in which he again has the audacity to suggest looking back at the early church to see how we can transform the church now.</p>
	<p>Do these books or these authors agree on everything? No. But they&#8217;re both taking the step I would like to see readers of this blog or of their books take: They&#8217;re looking to the source and listening to the Spirit and asking what this means for the church today.</p>
	<p>This post has a somewhat commercial sound to it, and I don&#8217;t deny I hope to sell books. But these aren&#8217;t the only people thinking about this and taking action. Our pastoral staff at <a title="First United Methodist Church Pensacola Florida" href="http://FUMCPensacola.com">First United Methodist Church in Pensacola</a> have decided to focus on preaching from acts for the seven weeks leading up to Pentecost. What a wonderful way to spend the season of Easter and prepare for Pentecost! Dr. Wesley Wachob is teaching Wednesday evening classes from Acts. He&#8217;s preparing a study guide to the book for me to publish. I&#8217;m excited about that opening as well.</p>
	<p>And I suspect each of you have Bibles as well. Turn to the book of Acts as a starting point, read it, and ask yourself how you can build God&#8217;s kingdom. Let me suggest that it wouldn&#8217;t be a program, a system, or a denomination. Perhaps it will be people on fire, speaking in many languages, in many ways, in many places.
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		<title>Is the UMC Dying?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>I tried not to steal the headline from the article by Rev. Robert Rynders in UM-Insight, The Church Isn&#8217;t Dying, It&#8217;s Already Dead, but this post is largely to tell you to go read that post.</p> <p>After reading his article and thinking about the good things I&#8217;ve seen happening in some United Methodist churches [...]<div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/11/curing-the-united-methodist-church/"     class="crp_title">Curing the United Methodist Church</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/09/on-um-insight/"     class="crp_title">On UM Insight</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/09/umc-pastoral-accountability-what-about-bishops/"     class="crp_title">UMC Pastoral Accountability: What About Bishops?</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2013/04/renewing-mainline-congregations-again/"     class="crp_title">Renewing (Mainline) Congregations &#8211; Again</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/08/choosing-a-new-church/"     class="crp_title">Choosing a New Church</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I tried not to steal the headline from the article by Rev. Robert Rynders in UM-Insight, <a href="http://um-insight.net/blogs/rob-rynders/the-church-isn%27t-dying.-it%27s-already-dead/">The Church Isn&#8217;t Dying, It&#8217;s Already Dead</a>, but this post is largely to tell you to go read that post.</p>
	<p>After reading his article and thinking about the good things I&#8217;ve seen happening in some United Methodist churches — and I see quite a few good things happening — is that most of the good things result from people deciding to just do something good in their own congregation or community rather than spending their time on denominational politics.</p>
	<p>I will confess to being strongly attracted to this idea simply because I simply can&#8217;t stand church politics. It&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m better than all the other people. It&#8217;s just that when we get into committees we all seem to turn into some form of alien monsters. So I&#8217;m naturally inclined to accept Rev. Rynders&#8217; thesis. It lets me feel better when I ignore the politics.</p>
	<p>What about you? What do you think?
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		<title>Energion Political Debate</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 03:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>Two authors for my company Energion Publications are conducting a year-long political debate. I ask a question each month, they each answer (posted on the third Thursday of the month), and then continue to respond to each other&#8217;s positions until we post the next question. Currently the topic is the role of government.</p> <p>The [...]<div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2013/03/state-of-income-inequality-in-the-united-states/"     class="crp_title">State of Income Inequality in the United States</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/08/on-moderating-a-political-discussion/"     class="crp_title">On Moderating a Political Discussion</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/09/the-great-energion-political-roundtable-continues/"     class="crp_title">The Great Energion Political Roundtable Continues</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2013/04/renewing-mainline-congregations-again/"     class="crp_title">Renewing (Mainline) Congregations &#8211; Again</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/04/on-missions-and-priorities/"     class="crp_title">On Missions and Priorities</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Two authors for my company Energion Publications are conducting a year-long political debate. I ask a question each month, they each answer (posted on the third Thursday of the month), and then continue to respond to each other&#8217;s positions until we post the next question. Currently the topic is the role of government.</p>
	<p>The current question and links to the first responses have been <a href="http://energion.net/2013/03/energion-political-debate-question-3/">posted at Enerigon.net</a>.</p>
	<p>I will provide links to any other responses to these questions that are called to my attention. Leave your links in comments over at Energion.net. The comment will probably go into moderation, but I&#8217;ll be approving them fairly quickly.
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		<title>Reaching Those in a Cult Situation</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>The best advice I&#8217;ve heard on this topic is provided in a short post by Elizabeth Esther.</p> <p>Takeway? Be a listening ear. </p> <div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/10/removing-mormons-from-the-cult-list/"     class="crp_title">Removing Mormons from the Cult List</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/02/beware-the-cult-of-the-speaker/"     class="crp_title">Beware the Cult of the Speaker</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/06/witnessing-and-friendship-again/"     class="crp_title">Witnessing and Friendship (Again)</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2011/02/a-couple-of-links-on-the-purpose-of-the-church/"     class="crp_title">A Couple of Links on the Purpose of the Church</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/07/christian-perfection-not-so-plain-to-me/"     class="crp_title">Christian Perfection &#8211; Not So Plain to Me!</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The best advice I&#8217;ve heard on this topic is <a href="http://www.elizabethesther.com/2010/01/how-to-talk-to-someone-living-inside-an-abusive-church-cult-group.html">provided in a short post by Elizabeth Esther</a>.</p>
	<p>Takeway? <strong>Be a listening ear.</strong>
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		<title>Theologian Pastors</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ <p>Mostly, this is a link to Allan Bevere&#8217;s post, which builds on Michael Bird&#8217;s post.</p> <p>I&#8217;m one of those parishioners who would like to hear more sermons from well-educated theologians. Even if the circumstances are different (see comments to Allan&#8217;s post), I, like John Wesley, have but a lowly MA.</p> <p>But there are several [...]<div class="crp_related"><h2>Related Posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/12/putting-up-barriers-to-ministry/"     class="crp_title">Putting up Barriers to Ministry</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2013/04/renewing-mainline-congregations-again/"     class="crp_title">Renewing (Mainline) Congregations &#8211; Again</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/02/beware-the-cult-of-the-speaker/"     class="crp_title">Beware the Cult of the Speaker</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2010/08/burned-out-pastors/"     class="crp_title">Burned Out Pastors</a></li><li><a href="http://henrysthreads.com/2012/07/shifting-theology/"     class="crp_title">Shifting Theology</a></li><li>Powered by <a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/contextual-related-posts/" rel="nofollow">Contextual Related Posts</a></li></ul></div>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mostly, this is a link to <a href="http://www.allanbevere.com/2013/03/once-again-pastor-as-resident-theologian.html">Allan Bevere&#8217;s post</a>, which builds on <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/euangelion/2013/03/why-we-need-more-doctorates-in-the-pastorate/">Michael Bird&#8217;s post</a>.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m one of those parishioners who would like to hear more sermons from well-educated theologians. Even if the circumstances are different (see comments to Allan&#8217;s post), I, like John Wesley, have but a lowly MA.</p>
	<p>But there are several things that will need to happen for this to work.</p>
	<p>First, we will need to redefine the role of a pastor in the minds of the people in the pews. For them, preaching is less than an hour of their pastor&#8217;s work during the week. Sure, if you pin them down on the subject, they&#8217;ll admit there must be preparation time, but it&#8217;s still only a minor thing. They want to see the pastor visiting, administering the church, attending all the committees, being around for social occasions, and in some churches doing part of the maintenance work. Face it, to most of the people in the pews, theology just isn&#8217;t work.</p>
	<p>Second, we need to learn to have the whole church do pastoral work. A nation of priests sounds alright until we need to put it into action. There are people in every church who are called to do pastoral work, such as visiting the sick and shut-ins, helping with various ministries to those in need, and so forth. There are others gifted for administration. If the work was divided between the gifted, perhaps there would be more time. Then we could have a pastor who was primarily teacher or &#8220;resident theologian.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Third, if we get the daily non-theological work (or the theology in practice, perhaps) taken care of, we need to convince the people of the church that a theologian is a worthwhile investment. I think it would be. In fact, it is one of the few staff positions I see as necessary. In many cases, a group of churches should band together and hire a resident theologian. Then the leadership of those churches could go study with that individual, and in turn teach their congregations. The theologian, of course, should also spend time with everyone.</p>
	<p>Fourth, if we are to reduce the separation of the academy from the church, perhaps the academy itself needs to be distributed more. Modern technology might be able to help with this, and I don&#8217;t mean largely by distance learning in this case. I mean by theologians, resident or not, giving classes in various areas that would be tracked for credit. In other words, one&#8217;s academic degree would not be accomplished entirely in the academy, and one&#8217;s academic career could not be spent entirely in the ivory tower.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m probably leaving dozens of problems out of this discussion, but since I don&#8217;t see us getting past my points 1 &amp; 2, I guess that&#8217;s enough!</p>
	<p>&nbsp;
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